My ubering gear;
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Stormlash (socketed with 20 light res jewel)
StormShield (socketed with um)
Guillaumes Face (socketed with shael)
Smoke rw in AP
Gore Riders
Dracul's Grasp
26 Mara's
String of Ears
Raven Frost
Duel Leech ring
have anni and torch
some light res charms to reach 75 light res in meph's aura
i see that in this thread all the people mention for cheap prices u can do uber tristram.
i wanted to tell that, ut is not easy with my gear.
it's completable by dying lots of time.. but it's not "doing uber run" if you die 4-5 times trying.
And i strongly believe that i'm not a bad player (:
as the true nature of crushing blow, it's easy to drop Uber's health to %5-10.. but than.. it takes like forever to kill one of them.
if my kick's damage is low, i'd be happy to hear some of you guy's damage. so i can understand where i'm doing it wrong.
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When i started working on this build. i was advised to go for CoH and Stormshield. i know why this two items are awesome. but even with my +69 strength Enigma, my damage is 880-1424 without auras.
but when i put on Fortitude and Phoenix, it goes to 1253-2123. damage difference is so much that it is almost 2/3. and that much difference is should be really really important for kicker.
anyway, i'd like to learn about "Coh SS" vs "Forti Phoenix". have a nice day (:
Cheers (: Trigger|||Coh gives skills/str/dr/most importantly res for when doing ubers
SS gives dr/res and can get max block with it pretty easily
Fort gives damage, but IIRC your base kick damage will be low enough it wont really matter, Phoenix gives redemption which will keep you alive, but again the massive ED aint great and almost no block.
Not to mention the redemption takes away bodies for death sentry in regular pvm play.
Are your boots up'd?|||Quote:
Coh gives skills/str/dr/most importantly res for when doing ubers
SS gives dr/res and can get max block with it pretty easily
Fort gives damage, but IIRC your base kick damage will be low enough it wont really matter, Phoenix gives redemption which will keep you alive, but again the massive ED aint great and almost no block.
Not to mention the redemption takes away bodies for death sentry in regular pvm play.
Are your boots up'd?
+skills and strength is not that important if they can't make me give as much damage as Fortitude. In both items, res and dr are the valueable parts. res can be manageable with charms. Only point i'm not certain about is damage reduce. which is useless when life tap is on. but i'll use this items in PvM also. So it may be a problem with normal monsters.
So having even 1253-2123 damage will not change a thing you say ? i haven't tried it. so if it won't change a thing, there 's already no point for me to wonder about it (:
And you are right again about redemption in PVM, thanks. But will it matter in Uber tristram ? will i need to block there? will i use death sentry to explode something ?
And yes my boots are upped. (damage 84-something)|||Quote:
anyway, i'd like to learn about "Coh SS" vs "Forti Phoenix"
chasing straight physical damage with a kicker just flat-out doesn't work. you're better off chasing extra proc effects (static charge and crushing blow being the most useful).
Phoenix lacks any +% block mods, so the dex needed for max block is horrific. you also have the issue of cast-delay every time the firestorm procs off.
CoH (or Treachery/Smoke/Viper/Gladiators Bane/Duress)/SS is a much better all round option.
remember, your main killing skill is Death Sentry. not kicks. kicks just give you that first corpse quickly so the DS howitzer can get cranking.
Phoenix is nerfing your best attack skill.
not a good move.|||Like Meph said, you don't rely on kick damage so much as static field and cb.
Stormlash and SS is my favorite setup, and I used to do my runs with a LW/SS.
You'll want more than stacked lite res, remember, he doesn't just have lite attacks, and you're also getting hit by all the minions and whatever they're shooting at you.
I typically see two things wrong with kickers having trouble
Low Life
Poor resists
You'll want the cta/spirit switch to help boost hp, if you're under 1500hp goin in, you're risk of death is huge, and that's just organ running.
Make sure nothing cancels your lifetap (ie amp, decrepify etc)
You don't need 75% block, but I would recommend a minimum of 50%.
I would setup gear without torch so you can pick it up immediately as opposed to needing to switch and send in a mule. Nothing is more frustrating than getting through a run only to lose the torch because you can't get back in.|||Ok i understood about Forti/Phoenix. That ws just for me to find a way to solo ubers..
if i go back to real problem: to find the reason :
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Phoenix lacks any +% block mods, so the dex needed for max block is horrific. you also have the issue of cast-delay every time the firestorm procs off.
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You'll want the cta/spirit switch to help boost hp, if you're under 1500hp goin in, you're risk of death is huge, and that's just organ running.
You don't need 75% block, but I would recommend a minimum of 50%.
With my +69 strenght enigma, stats are :
strenght: 275
dexterity: 230
vitality: 302
energy: 72
so life : 1283
with my bo: 2025
as far as i know to max the block, dex should be around 200+.
is something wrong here ?
i've still don't know the answer;
why i can't do uber runs with this gear:
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as the true nature of crushing blow, it's easy to drop Uber's health to %5-10.. but than.. it takes like forever to kill one of them.|||Going to need more info. Your life is definitely on the low side.
Which Uber is killing you, and which ones are you having a hard time killing.
Also how do you pull them? Do you fight them one at a time, etc...|||Quote:
PART 1
i see that in this thread all the people mention for cheap prices u can do uber tristram.
i wanted to tell that, ut is not easy with my gear.
it's completable by dying lots of time.. but it's not "doing uber run" if you die 4-5 times trying.
And i strongly believe that i'm not a bad player (:
If you're dying that often with that gear, you probably need to re-evaluate that belief. People have done it with low runewords and a few uniques. I myself have done runs with dual bartucs.
You can't do ubers with a kicker like you can a smiter - they don't miss. You can't just take on all 3 at the same time and expect to handle it smoothly.
Your life is on the low side, but its over 1500, which is essential.
You seemed to miss that whole thing about POOR RESISTS I mentioned.
I never ran my kicker with an anni and torch, as her inventory was filled with random charms for health and res except for the 2 slots to pick up a torch.
Enigma is fine for general use, but you're lacking resists. I tried to hint that lite damage is not the only thing to worry about, something you didn't quite catch. Coh was my usual armor in ubertrist for the resists, using a kiras if needbe. Meph's aura is -125% res, so with the -100% from hell, you effectively need 300% res to hit 75% once the aura hits. Fade only goes so far.
Your gear shouldn't be the problem aside from the armor, but your lacking res would likely be the primary culprit. If your AR is under 15k, I would see that as a problem too, being that they're level 110, and you're level ?
You also haven't mentioned your skill choices.|||Before reading whole part, please read bold part (: that might be the real problem..
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Going to need more info. Your life is definitely on the low side.
Which Uber is killing you, and which ones are you having a hard time killing.
Also how do you pull them? Do you fight them one at a time, etc...
How much life should be considered as normal? maybe i gave too much points to dexterity ?
Mephisto (: Killing him while he and his minions are shooting at me.. it's hard.
and yes i pull them one by one.
I didn't try soloing after i created my Cta, but you're saying it should be much more easier with these items, even worse ones.
Maybe my strategy is wrong ? should i kick minions and explode them? instead of focusing on Mephisto ?
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You seemed to miss that whole thing about POOR RESISTS I mentioned.
^^ I'm so sorry about forgetting to mention about my armor in item list.
i use Enigma in PvM, when i'm going for ubers,, i wear Smoke.
So my resist are maxed, and in addition to it, i have extra 80 light resist for Meph's aura. (i thought his aura was %80, i need to stack up more if its %125, THIS may be the main problem i guess)(He also uses blizzard too of course but he kills with lightning attacks most of the time)
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If your AR is under 15k, I would see that as a problem too, being that they're level 110, and you're level ?
It's 15092. i also use demon limb to increase it if i remember..
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You also haven't mentioned your skill choices.
with cta's boost and all items:
dragon talon 32
burst of speed 13
venom 13
cloak of shadows 12
death/lightning/charged bolt 31
shock web 27
fire blast 12|||Quote:
^^ I'm so sorry about forgetting to mention about my armor in item list.
i use Enigma in PvM, when i'm going for ubers,, i wear Smoke.
So my resist are maxed, and in addition to it, i have extra 80 light resist for Meph's aura. (i thought his aura was %80, i need to stack up more if its %125, THIS may be the main problem i guess)(He also uses blizzard too of course but he kills with lightning attacks most of the time)
This is one of the problems indeed, only not for the lightning resist. Mephi also has a cold attack iirc, and his minion spawn definately has other elemental damage. So while you took care of lightning resist, your other resists when under mephi's aura are all 0 or negative.
Solutions to this:
more resists:
- treachery prebuff: you use the threachery armour to get extra resists form it's CTC fade
- investing sp in fade: same idea
This way you can't use BoS though...
Keep the minions busy:
Cast Shadow in between them, use WoF or LS to put them into hit recovery,... Literally anything you can do to reduce their rate of fire is good
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as the true nature of crushing blow, it's easy to drop Uber's health to %5-10.. but than.. it takes like forever to kill one of them.
That's true for allmost any char really. The trick is not to kill the ubers faster (10% of their hitpoints is still a lot), it's making your char sturdier so it can survive for longer. Which doens't mean more phys damage is bad, it isn't in the least (as it lets you leech more). But leeching doesn't help if big elemental attacks hit you at 100% efficiency...
So in conclusion, get your resists up (not just lightning) by any means and you'll be sturdy enough to survive that last 10% life.
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