Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Newbie kick question.

1. Does Laying of hands +350% damage to demon work with kicks.

2. Does maces' +50% damage to undead work

3. Does deadly strike on/off weapon work.

4. Anything on off hand weapon work?

5. Kick benefit from might?

Thanx in advance.|||1) No.

2) Not sure. I think it has to involve the mace (charges).

3) No.

4) The + elemental damage such as found on Tiamat's will work. ED% found on Phoenix shields also help.

5) Yes.|||1+2) Yes. Same effect as having %ed jewels in off-weapon gear, except only versus demons/undead.|||http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...t=Laying+hands|||Quote:








http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...t=Laying+hands




Are you quoting Oxnard (a 9 post source)?




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First, the ED to Demons from Laying of Hands doesn't apply to your kicks (Same goes for the ED to Demons on your CoH). It talks about it later on in the warrior monk thread...




From: Warrior Monk Guide:




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For uber-hunting Chains of Honor outclasses Fortitude for several reasons. First of all there’s the fantastic resists, which make any uber-hunter smile in anticipation of Mephisto’s impending doom. The second thing is you don’t lose much damage at all; the fact is that even though the LCS (Lying Character Screen) doesn’t display it, your damage will actually be close to what it would be with Fortitude against demons. Why? +200% Enhanced Damage to Demons, that’s why!





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Finally there’s Laying of Hands, the set gloves from the Disciple set. These gloves are GREAT for uber-hunting! +350% Enhanced Damage to Demons will make those kicks of yours hit the uber-three with the released power of a siege engine!




Oxnard needs to read his own sources a little better.|||Just because a guide is stickied doesn't make it correct.|||You aren't quoting "later on in the guide". You're quoting the guide itself. It even mentions + max charms.



A post from Ilkori's Guide might convince you then. I trust he's a better source, and I do admit a low poster doesn't sound like concrete evidence.|||Quote:








Just because a guide is stickied doesn't make it correct.




I agree.




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You aren't quoting "later on in the guide". You're quoting the guide itself. It even mentions + max charms.



Everything I read in that guide indicates that it works.



A post from Ilkori's Guide might convince you then. I trust he's a better source, and I do admit a low poster doesn't sound like concrete evidence.




I would definitely trust this information more. I'll respec an assassin soon and test it myself and record the results with fraps. Perhaps you can help me devise the test set-up? I have things like CoH, LoH, ect. I'll probably use a regular myrmidon greaves, and no crushing blow or venom or anything.|||No need to test;


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Properties that do NOT work with kicks:

* Deadly/Critical Strike

* Enhanced Damage from equipment (if it works it doesn't display on character screen)

* +% Damage to Demons/Undead

* + Min / Max damage (so no 3/20/20 charms for kickers)

* Claw Mastery bonuses (Boots are not Claws!)

* Melee mods such as Increased Attack Speed (IAS), Crushing Blow, Open Wounds, prevent monster heal, life leech, etc. are not applied from the secondary claw (in a Dual-Claw setup).




http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp...tialarts.shtml

The only thing that confuses me here is that enhanced damage doesnt work, but +damage% from anything but your weapon does.|||It must be talking about ED% from weapons. ED% like on Fort does work.

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