Suwayyah for Chaos?

Can I use this to make 'Chaos' in, or does it have to specifically have to be claws?



Suwayyah

3os

+2 Mind Blast

+2 Wake of Inferno

+1 Lightning Sentry



If I could make Chaos in it that would be great, but would assassins get use out of:



'Malice'

+33% Enhanced Damage

+9 To Maximum Damage

100% Chance Of Open Wounds

-25% Target Defense

-100 To Monster Defense Per Hit

Prevent Monster Heal

+50 To Attack Rating

Drain Life -5



OR



'Fury'

+209% Enhanced Damage

40% Increased Attack Speed

Prevent Monster Heal

66% Chance Of Open Wounds

33% Deadly Strike

Ignore Target's Defense

-25% Target Defense

20% Bonus To Attack Rating

6% Life Stolen Per Hit

+5 To Frenzy (Barbarian Only)|||You could make Chaos/Fury out of it(Malice is mostly a waste for pvp) however it is a very slow base claw, I wouldn't use it.|||The extra +skills wouldn't make up for it not being as fast as another claw It also does more damage?



Are you sure I can make 'Chaos' in it? It is technically a Katar I think, and on the Arreat Summit it says the runeword is for claws...



'Chaos' would be cheap too, but still, no need to waste the Um if it won't work.|||Quote:








The extra +skills wouldn't make up for it not being as fast as another claw It also does more damage?




Skills on it are half decent, but nothing especially good. You can find much better claws, for hybrid or ghost. And for PvP wwsins physical dmg isn't really important.




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Are you sure I can make 'Chaos' in it? It is technically a Katar I think, and on the Arreat Summit it says the runeword is for claws...




Yes, Suwayyah are claws class weapon.|||Hmm, thanks! Guess I'll charsi it and maybe get something better



What build would use full Natalya's? Anything specifically fun, or is not really good enough to use?|||Quote:








And for PvP wwsins physical dmg isn't really important




Only if your build doesn't focus on it.



I wouldn't Charsi the claw. It's perfectly fine and you can make Chaos out of it.







Phoenix Strikers tend to use full Nat's, but there are still better options for them.|||Does the speed matter?



Suwayyah is 0 (base speed)

Other claws are -20 even -30.|||Yes, but there is a way around it, and it indeed focuses on the Suwayyah being a Chaos.



The Ghost guide stickied at the top of this forum has a detailed explanation on WSM bugging. WSM bugging is to have a slow Chaos (Suwayyah) and a fast other claw. By certain placement, lifting and re-equiping the Suwayyah, your WSM will increase, resulting in less IAS needed by the other claw.

Suwayyah bugged with a Runic Talon needs only 19% IAS on that Runic Talon; that's easily covered by the 40% IAS Fool's / Fury claws.|||Quote:








Only if your build doesn't focus on it.




True, but physical dmg based wwsins are a rare sight compared to their venom/traps/ow based cousins.


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I wouldn't Charsi the claw. It's perfectly fine and you can make Chaos out of it.




I agree. It's nothing awesome, but +2 MB/+1 LS still beats claws with no skills.|||Quote:








Yes, but there is a way around it, and it indeed focuses on the Suwayyah being a Chaos.





The Ghost guide stickied at the top of this forum has a detailed explanation on WSM bugging. WSM bugging is to have a slow Chaos (Suwayyah) and a fast other claw. By certain placement, lifting and re-equiping the Suwayyah, your WSM will increase, resulting in less IAS needed by the other claw.



Suwayyah bugged with a Runic Talon needs only 19% IAS on that Runic Talon; that's easily covered by the 40% IAS Fool's / Fury claws.




So if I find a 1-3os Runic Talons and socket it with Shaels then I could make up for slow attack speed of the suwayyah?